Curse

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Dear Anet,

I play pvp a lot and get more bored every day. Reason why is: Ranger spike. Knowing that you will die in 1 hit and that you cant do much about it is pretty lame.
I can't really say this is guildwars anymore...the only thing i see is rangers or Iway.
Iway is easy to nerf, Just let the level of the pet be calulated on Beast mastery points (example: 1 Beast master is level 1 pet)

Ranger spikes are harder to nerf, although i can find a way which makes it easier to counter. If you use your ignite/kindle preparation your arrows/melee should turn into fire damage, and add the damage to your melee instead of sepparated damage. In this way wards are more effective and the Order of pain wouldn't work.

Please nerf this,

ThorNoX

twicky_kid · Nov 12, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

honestly don't think it should be. it doesn't dominate everything it comes across. there are builds that are going to be better than others but not against everything it crosses. air spikers can kill a target in 1 volley. pvp is based around spike dmg b/c other wise the they would never get through the monks healing.

ranger spike has many counters. if your build is having a hard time adjust it. you only need 2 skills to completely counter ranger spike.

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

honestly don't think it should be. it doesn't dominate everything it comes across. there are builds that are going to be better than others but not against everything it crosses. air spikers can kill a target in 1 volley. pvp is based around spike dmg b/c other wise the they would never get through the monks healing.

ranger spike has many counters. if your build is having a hard time adjust it. you only need 2 skills to completely counter ranger spike.

That is bullshit, we tried nearly every thing, from Fertile season till wards with spirit of Greater conflag. there spiking dmg is over 600 dmg...and they have 2 spike in a row....1200 dmg...

Beside that it not the only reason..if you play pvp you will only see ranger builds its boring....

necrozsi · Nov 12, 2005, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by ThorNoX

Dear Anet,

Iway is easy to nerf, Just let the level of the pet be calulated on Beast mastery points (example: 1 Beast master is level 1 pet)

ThorNoX

are u serious?? if pets were lvl 1 all iway needs to do is use bows and send in pets with death nova and eoe and putrid

i dont care if people complain about somethin being overpowered, but i hate it when pve players go around and act like they know pvp..

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U must play with rank 0 ranger spike if u think ranger spike uses ignite/kindle arrows

go back to pve u obviously no nothin

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 09:28 AM // 09:28

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Originally Posted by necrozsi

are u serious?? if pets were lvl 1 all iway needs to do is use bows and send in pets with death nova and eoe and putrid

i dont care if people complain about somethin being overpowered, but i hate it when pve players go around and act like they know pvp..

First of all i dont play pve second of all if they are low level then you can kill them pretty fast...if you can't well then try harder..anyways i dont really care about pet builds that much...i nver lose against them...
And btw little noob EoE doesnt work with pets, the pets will die faster and the pets will die faster then needed and putrid has a recharge time..

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33

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Originally Posted by necrozsi

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U must play with rank 0 ranger spike if u think ranger spike uses ignite/kindle arrows

go back to pve u obviously no nothin

Alright stop acting stupid, if you think you are so uber leet then come 1 vs 1 versus my guild, you wont last long. Dont try making conclusions which arent based on facts.

And yes they don use kindle noob, i have seen it to much. Shall i take screenshots next time?

Deadlyjunk · Nov 12, 2005, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by ThorNoX

Alright stop acting stupid, if you think you are so uber leet then come 1 vs 1 versus my guild, you wont last long. Dont try making conclusions which arent based on facts.

And yes they don use kindle noob, i have seen it to much. Shall i take screenshots next time?

I'm going to repeat what I said elsewhere:

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

I think the point of this forum is to post constructive ideas. Not just go on a rant against some part of the game you don't like.

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

I'm going to repeat what I said elsewhere:

My idea was to nerf the Ranger spike, and i gave my reason why.

Murder In China · Nov 12, 2005, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Because you couldn't think of using a shout to counter the rangers. Also, there is SO MANY many damn threads about this. Take a second to actually use the search function.

Deadlyjunk · Nov 12, 2005, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by ThorNoX

My idea was to nerf the Ranger spike, and i gave my reason why.

Hehe, the reason why is obvious. But you should try to be a little more constructive. What alternatives do you suggest? What skills would you nerf? Nerfing ranger spike could seriously damage rangers talents. Trappers aside, the only rangers I've ever seen in Tombs are in spike teams. Oh, and the rare Korean beastmaster team. But generally speaking, I think it would hurt ranger' PvP potential a lot.

ThorNoX · Nov 12, 2005, 10:16 AM // 10:16

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

Hehe, the reason why is obvious. But you should try to be a little more constructive. What alternatives do you suggest? What skills would you nerf? Nerfing ranger spike could seriously damage rangers talents. Trappers aside, the only rangers I've ever seen in Tombs are in spike teams. Oh, and the rare Korean beastmaster team. But generally speaking, I think it would hurt ranger' PvP potential a lot.

Hmm alright i shall try

heist23 · Nov 12, 2005, 10:16 AM // 10:16

for the love of....

if you're so damn lazy to find a counter to ranger spike, i'll give you 3:

Ineptitude
Shields Up!
Aegis

if you couldn't have thought of those on your own, then i guess it makes sense that you lost so many times to ranger spike.

oh, and. i for one am enjoying this new lift in ranger popularity. not 3 months ago rangers were the most useless profession in the game. now they're being flamed all over because they're "overpowered". yes, spirits were rididculous, and interrupts were too, but seriously. deadlyjunk states the point nicely.

damocles · Nov 12, 2005, 10:20 AM // 10:20

Ranger Spike isn't really hard to counter if you know how to handle them. Like someone already said throw up Greater Conflagration and Wards and it's GG. The same with IWAY and Minion Factory.

Savio · Nov 12, 2005, 10:25 AM // 10:25

I think this thread has gone on long enough, and as others said there are other threads about this. Closed.